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		<title>By: Elizabeth Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.idratherbewriting.com/2009/06/29/i-need-your-human-aggregated-content/comment-page-1/#comment-141942</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: What I&#8217;m Reading: a new way of posting to Writer River</title>
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		<dc:creator>What I&#8217;m Reading: a new way of posting to Writer River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alistair Christie</title>
		<link>http://www.idratherbewriting.com/2009/06/29/i-need-your-human-aggregated-content/comment-page-1/#comment-141863</link>
		<dc:creator>Alistair Christie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Writer River and have got a lot of interesting reading out of it since you set it up.

However I&#039;m a little alarmed by the thought that this change might result in 3000 entries a month. One of the things I like about Writer River is that there&#039;s not too much of it. The entries are well selected and nicely targeted. 

I can only spend so much of my time reading up about technical communication and I know that, when I do have some time for reading, I can go to Writer River and be informed or entertained, without wasting time browsing through lots of pages before I find something interesting.

For me, Writer River works as a sort of a &quot;Best Of&quot; site.

The thought of Writer River becoming bloated with entries reminds me of a technical communicator I was following for a while on twitter. At first I was impressed by the volume of links he pumped out into the twittersphere. But pretty soon, although some of what he tweeted about was interesting, I began to find it irritating that I was spending time searching through his links for things that were worth reading. I realised that the trouble was he was not applying much of a filter. After a while I found I was just scrolling past his batches of tweets to find those from people with something interesting to say or to pass on. Eventually I decided this was ridiculous and I unfollowed him, which made me feel bad.

But sometimes less is more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Writer River and have got a lot of interesting reading out of it since you set it up.</p>
<p>However I&#8217;m a little alarmed by the thought that this change might result in 3000 entries a month. One of the things I like about Writer River is that there&#8217;s not too much of it. The entries are well selected and nicely targeted. </p>
<p>I can only spend so much of my time reading up about technical communication and I know that, when I do have some time for reading, I can go to Writer River and be informed or entertained, without wasting time browsing through lots of pages before I find something interesting.</p>
<p>For me, Writer River works as a sort of a &#8220;Best Of&#8221; site.</p>
<p>The thought of Writer River becoming bloated with entries reminds me of a technical communicator I was following for a while on twitter. At first I was impressed by the volume of links he pumped out into the twittersphere. But pretty soon, although some of what he tweeted about was interesting, I began to find it irritating that I was spending time searching through his links for things that were worth reading. I realised that the trouble was he was not applying much of a filter. After a while I found I was just scrolling past his batches of tweets to find those from people with something interesting to say or to pass on. Eventually I decided this was ridiculous and I unfollowed him, which made me feel bad.</p>
<p>But sometimes less is more.</p>
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		<title>By: abraxas</title>
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		<dc:creator>abraxas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice explanation given with diagram. It is really awesome and i know that its has some drawbacks to work on and surely all the loopholes and drawbacks will be good to use it up. The way of explanation is pretty awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice explanation given with diagram. It is really awesome and i know that its has some drawbacks to work on and surely all the loopholes and drawbacks will be good to use it up. The way of explanation is pretty awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Pitt</title>
		<link>http://www.idratherbewriting.com/2009/06/29/i-need-your-human-aggregated-content/comment-page-1/#comment-141846</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Pitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats a great idea though it has some loopholes and problems which can be worked upon. People sometime just get fed up to find out some real useful information or articles which can help them. But your idea has certainly given me food for thought.If its possible, it will be fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats a great idea though it has some loopholes and problems which can be worked upon. People sometime just get fed up to find out some real useful information or articles which can help them. But your idea has certainly given me food for thought.If its possible, it will be fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Sauer</title>
		<link>http://www.idratherbewriting.com/2009/06/29/i-need-your-human-aggregated-content/comment-page-1/#comment-141816</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Sauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, I&#039;ve been wondering the same thing for over a year now. Without any luck. Yours is a great site, and I like ours. We just need to think of a way for the two to complement each other, rather than running parallel on either side of a brick wall, dividing volunteer labor between the two projects.

Perhaps something of the sort you suggest? Your site gets content more quickly, more easily. Ours follows with some selectivity, more detailed metadata, and slower incorporation of detailed content. Perhaps we articulate these in our missions, somehow?

And find a way to link back and forth when there&#039;s overlap? We could parse your aggregated RSS feed. And there&#039;s probably some way you could incorporate our feeds into your aggregator? Doing this without duplicating entries would be tricky, since neither of our feeds include original URLs, but link to our respective sites&#039; &#039;detail&#039; pages. Hmm.

What do readers think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, I&#8217;ve been wondering the same thing for over a year now. Without any luck. Yours is a great site, and I like ours. We just need to think of a way for the two to complement each other, rather than running parallel on either side of a brick wall, dividing volunteer labor between the two projects.</p>
<p>Perhaps something of the sort you suggest? Your site gets content more quickly, more easily. Ours follows with some selectivity, more detailed metadata, and slower incorporation of detailed content. Perhaps we articulate these in our missions, somehow?</p>
<p>And find a way to link back and forth when there&#8217;s overlap? We could parse your aggregated RSS feed. And there&#8217;s probably some way you could incorporate our feeds into your aggregator? Doing this without duplicating entries would be tricky, since neither of our feeds include original URLs, but link to our respective sites&#8217; &#8216;detail&#8217; pages. Hmm.</p>
<p>What do readers think?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff, you make a good point. I don&#039;t want to try to duplicate or compete with the rich repository you already have going with &lt;a href=&quot;http://tc.eserver.org&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tc.eserver.org&lt;/a&gt;. What if Writer River could be a means of making fresh, new content visible, which could then be checked out, evaluated, and possibly entered into the tc.eserver.org database -- by you or your team -- with all the structured meta tagging that you&#039;re doing? 

I think that if people have to tag the content with so much data to get it onto Writer River, the increased effort will decrease the amount of participation. I want to make this effortless. At the same time, you&#039;re right -- a giant repository of links isn&#039;t very usable. If you have any ideas about how these two could work in tandem, I would love to hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff, you make a good point. I don&#8217;t want to try to duplicate or compete with the rich repository you already have going with <a href="http://tc.eserver.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">tc.eserver.org</a>. What if Writer River could be a means of making fresh, new content visible, which could then be checked out, evaluated, and possibly entered into the tc.eserver.org database &#8212; by you or your team &#8212; with all the structured meta tagging that you&#8217;re doing? </p>
<p>I think that if people have to tag the content with so much data to get it onto Writer River, the increased effort will decrease the amount of participation. I want to make this effortless. At the same time, you&#8217;re right &#8212; a giant repository of links isn&#8217;t very usable. If you have any ideas about how these two could work in tandem, I would love to hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Sauer</title>
		<link>http://www.idratherbewriting.com/2009/06/29/i-need-your-human-aggregated-content/comment-page-1/#comment-141812</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Sauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with aggregating content from RSS feeds is that they tend to contain so few metadata. Title, URL, description -- and that&#039;s all. You can end up with an enormous database of HTML links, but it will have no categories, no ratings, and no metadata one could browse or search to find truly relevant content. You&#039;re giving up on the advantages of human-aggregated content by adopting an XML standard with too little data (IMHO).

If we&#039;re all going to benefit from assembling a database of links we all wish to use, we&#039;ll need additional metadata. At the TC Library we collect four levels of category, as well as author, publisher, and year published (none of which is contained in most RSS feeds).

We have an XSLT for importing RSS content from diverse feeds into a &#039;pending&#039; database, which humans must tag and categorize before they&#039;re released into the public &#039;TC Library&#039; index. That way, we can implement a carefully-planned content strategy, rather than simply use the limited features offered by the software -- such as Yahoo Pipes and the thousands of RSS feeds already online.

Maybe you&#039;d look into developing something like this for Writer River? It really would make your collection more useful for browsing, searching, and later collections of links. And now would be a good time for this, rather than after you&#039;ve added thousands of uncategorized posts?

I could be wrong; I may misunderstand your content strategy for the Writer River database. But I&#039;ve been doing this for years, and I can (and do) very strongly recommend rich tagging of content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with aggregating content from RSS feeds is that they tend to contain so few metadata. Title, URL, description &#8212; and that&#8217;s all. You can end up with an enormous database of HTML links, but it will have no categories, no ratings, and no metadata one could browse or search to find truly relevant content. You&#8217;re giving up on the advantages of human-aggregated content by adopting an XML standard with too little data (IMHO).</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re all going to benefit from assembling a database of links we all wish to use, we&#8217;ll need additional metadata. At the TC Library we collect four levels of category, as well as author, publisher, and year published (none of which is contained in most RSS feeds).</p>
<p>We have an XSLT for importing RSS content from diverse feeds into a &#8216;pending&#8217; database, which humans must tag and categorize before they&#8217;re released into the public &#8216;TC Library&#8217; index. That way, we can implement a carefully-planned content strategy, rather than simply use the limited features offered by the software &#8212; such as Yahoo Pipes and the thousands of RSS feeds already online.</p>
<p>Maybe you&#8217;d look into developing something like this for Writer River? It really would make your collection more useful for browsing, searching, and later collections of links. And now would be a good time for this, rather than after you&#8217;ve added thousands of uncategorized posts?</p>
<p>I could be wrong; I may misunderstand your content strategy for the Writer River database. But I&#8217;ve been doing this for years, and I can (and do) very strongly recommend rich tagging of content.</p>
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