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		<title>By: STC Increase Fees: Is the STC still value for money? &#124; I Heart Tech Docs, Ivan Walsh, Technical Writer</title>
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		<dc:creator>STC Increase Fees: Is the STC still value for money? &#124; I Heart Tech Docs, Ivan Walsh, Technical Writer</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 21:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I did suggest changes in my response to the survey, so maybe they&#039;ll be considered. I also started a public discussion on techwr-l and am watching the one someone else started on STC forums. Bottom line is, I think when it comes to defining our profession, the Society could have communicated better with more members than it did, I feel. Others might be satisfied.

As for the badges: I don&#039;t really mind one way or the other. It is an issue raised by someone who seems to be a semi-regular conference attendee who was frosted by the change, and it seems it might have been a decision made by few and applied to many without communication. I don&#039;t know that, but I threw it out in the hopes of being shown to be wrong.

Anyway, cheers and have a good long weekend, if you get one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I did suggest changes in my response to the survey, so maybe they&#8217;ll be considered. I also started a public discussion on techwr-l and am watching the one someone else started on STC forums. Bottom line is, I think when it comes to defining our profession, the Society could have communicated better with more members than it did, I feel. Others might be satisfied.</p>
<p>As for the badges: I don&#8217;t really mind one way or the other. It is an issue raised by someone who seems to be a semi-regular conference attendee who was frosted by the change, and it seems it might have been a decision made by few and applied to many without communication. I don&#8217;t know that, but I threw it out in the hopes of being shown to be wrong.</p>
<p>Anyway, cheers and have a good long weekend, if you get one!</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 21:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the badges, I can&#039;t say with accuracy what happened. I can hazard an educated guess. I&#039;d guess that at the last conference, several of the overall evaluations came back with &#039;mail the badges&#039; as a suggestion. The committee acted on that input from previous conference attendees, which is normal, I think. Just a guess.

Regarding the survey, again, I&#039;m not sure of 100% accuracy, but my educated guess is that the descriptions were debated at committee meetings, options were presented at the board meeting, so debate and refinement took place, and the question was put on the survey. Note that you are at liberty in the same survey to write an amended definition. Why was this approach taken? My guess, is because it is much easier to get large masses of people to approve or refine something already written than it is to beg to a 10,000 member mass to contribute something written and allow it to be refined by the membership. 

The survey is a place of discussion. It specifically asks for input. It is a very good, direct, and almost intimate place for ideas to come in. It&#039;s a pull mechanism. Its a &#039;seek&#039; mechanism. It isn&#039;t a debate mechanism, and frankly I don&#039;t understand what a debate would be about anyway. That&#039;s just me.

As for volunteering, I&#039;m glad to hear it. I&#039;ve volunteered for years, too, and one of the most difficult parts of volunteering that I found is just how many loud voices citing mistaken and erroneous data and calling your integrity into question, not to mention your competence. It is infuriating, and yet as a &#039;leader&#039; you are required to ignore direct shots at you. As a currently non-volunteer, I&#039;m under no such caveats, and I get to call it like I see it. 

Let me say I&#039;ve watched years and years of this type of caviling. Every time, when you unravel the threads, the caviling is unsubstantiated. The bottom line is that real people make real mistakes. Sometimes decisions are made that are not how I would call it. And sometimes STC members should be glad of that!! At the end of the day, these are well intended people taking the info they have and acting in good faith. To talk about &#039;bloat&#039; and &#039;secrecy&#039; is sheer ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the badges, I can&#8217;t say with accuracy what happened. I can hazard an educated guess. I&#8217;d guess that at the last conference, several of the overall evaluations came back with &#8216;mail the badges&#8217; as a suggestion. The committee acted on that input from previous conference attendees, which is normal, I think. Just a guess.</p>
<p>Regarding the survey, again, I&#8217;m not sure of 100% accuracy, but my educated guess is that the descriptions were debated at committee meetings, options were presented at the board meeting, so debate and refinement took place, and the question was put on the survey. Note that you are at liberty in the same survey to write an amended definition. Why was this approach taken? My guess, is because it is much easier to get large masses of people to approve or refine something already written than it is to beg to a 10,000 member mass to contribute something written and allow it to be refined by the membership. </p>
<p>The survey is a place of discussion. It specifically asks for input. It is a very good, direct, and almost intimate place for ideas to come in. It&#8217;s a pull mechanism. Its a &#8217;seek&#8217; mechanism. It isn&#8217;t a debate mechanism, and frankly I don&#8217;t understand what a debate would be about anyway. That&#8217;s just me.</p>
<p>As for volunteering, I&#8217;m glad to hear it. I&#8217;ve volunteered for years, too, and one of the most difficult parts of volunteering that I found is just how many loud voices citing mistaken and erroneous data and calling your integrity into question, not to mention your competence. It is infuriating, and yet as a &#8216;leader&#8217; you are required to ignore direct shots at you. As a currently non-volunteer, I&#8217;m under no such caveats, and I get to call it like I see it. </p>
<p>Let me say I&#8217;ve watched years and years of this type of caviling. Every time, when you unravel the threads, the caviling is unsubstantiated. The bottom line is that real people make real mistakes. Sometimes decisions are made that are not how I would call it. And sometimes STC members should be glad of that!! At the end of the day, these are well intended people taking the info they have and acting in good faith. To talk about &#8216;bloat&#8217; and &#8217;secrecy&#8217; is sheer ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 19:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, how were the membership involved in these two decisions?

A recent decision to mail badges to conference attendees before the conference, and to assign seating at the end-of-conference dinner were made due to popular request. Who is “popular”? Who made the request?

The currently proposed definition of technical writer: where was that discussed. We have forums and email and the STC likes sending out polls–though they often be vague. Where was that definition decided upon? Was it even written by a technical writer?

It&#039;s fine to talk in generalities. How about those two examples?

I have another example where the Society polled a chapter membership and utterly ignored the chapter&#039;s request to modify a biased poll to return better data.

Look, I&#039;m glad the STC has volunteers. Guess what? I&#039;m one. And, I volunteer at other stuff outside of the STC, too. 

But, as a volunteer, I am not going to say we need seminars for members on how to stop whining. Instead, I&#039;d rather have seminars for the Society leaders and staff on how to better consult with and listen to those members whom they perceive as whiners.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, how were the membership involved in these two decisions?</p>
<p>A recent decision to mail badges to conference attendees before the conference, and to assign seating at the end-of-conference dinner were made due to popular request. Who is “popular”? Who made the request?</p>
<p>The currently proposed definition of technical writer: where was that discussed. We have forums and email and the STC likes sending out polls–though they often be vague. Where was that definition decided upon? Was it even written by a technical writer?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fine to talk in generalities. How about those two examples?</p>
<p>I have another example where the Society polled a chapter membership and utterly ignored the chapter&#8217;s request to modify a biased poll to return better data.</p>
<p>Look, I&#8217;m glad the STC has volunteers. Guess what? I&#8217;m one. And, I volunteer at other stuff outside of the STC, too. </p>
<p>But, as a volunteer, I am not going to say we need seminars for members on how to stop whining. Instead, I&#8217;d rather have seminars for the Society leaders and staff on how to better consult with and listen to those members whom they perceive as whiners.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 19:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One last thought: The answer is always &quot;somewhere else.&quot; As long as I&#039;ve been around (earth cooled and crusted comes to mind), it is always somewhere else.

The BOK is to try to find the answers. Polls aren&#039;t easy. Pollsters are devastatingly expensive. It takes time for polls to be constructed to get accurate information, there&#039;s a learning curve (I know, I&#039;ve created many). So some were ambiguous, and you might notice they appear to get more direct, lately. 

Further, the BOK was developed out of a direct request by members to have more voice. You don&#039;t even want to know what a small percentage of members respond, or vote for that matter.

While &#039;the answer&#039; is relentlessly tracked down, STC is doing what it can, with what it has. Because &#039;the answer&#039; being &#039;somewhere else&#039; really isn&#039;t acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One last thought: The answer is always &#8220;somewhere else.&#8221; As long as I&#8217;ve been around (earth cooled and crusted comes to mind), it is always somewhere else.</p>
<p>The BOK is to try to find the answers. Polls aren&#8217;t easy. Pollsters are devastatingly expensive. It takes time for polls to be constructed to get accurate information, there&#8217;s a learning curve (I know, I&#8217;ve created many). So some were ambiguous, and you might notice they appear to get more direct, lately. </p>
<p>Further, the BOK was developed out of a direct request by members to have more voice. You don&#8217;t even want to know what a small percentage of members respond, or vote for that matter.</p>
<p>While &#8216;the answer&#8217; is relentlessly tracked down, STC is doing what it can, with what it has. Because &#8216;the answer&#8217; being &#8217;somewhere else&#8217; really isn&#8217;t acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 19:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]And where in my post did you see me label the membership good-for-nothing whiners?[/quote]

Eh? Did I say you did?

Get accurate, then complain, bash, whine, have a ball.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]And where in my post did you see me label the membership good-for-nothing whiners?[/quote]</p>
<p>Eh? Did I say you did?</p>
<p>Get accurate, then complain, bash, whine, have a ball.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 18:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and by the way, if a committee makes a decision, even a bad one, the board will support it while they ask for changes. Why? Because there are so few volunteers and its so easy to make a mistake that not supporting your volunteers is a death knell to getting anything done at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and by the way, if a committee makes a decision, even a bad one, the board will support it while they ask for changes. Why? Because there are so few volunteers and its so easy to make a mistake that not supporting your volunteers is a death knell to getting anything done at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 18:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And where in my post did you see me label the membership good-for-nothing whiners? 

Let&#039;s at least try to be accurate. Mailing badges decision? Definitely a decision made by the conference committee, and they&#039;d have to tell you where the &quot;overwhelming&quot; requests came from. Part of the inaccuracy here is confusing committees with the association itself, and/or with the employees and/or with the board. 

Get accurate, then complain, bash, whine, have a ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And where in my post did you see me label the membership good-for-nothing whiners? </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s at least try to be accurate. Mailing badges decision? Definitely a decision made by the conference committee, and they&#8217;d have to tell you where the &#8220;overwhelming&#8221; requests came from. Part of the inaccuracy here is confusing committees with the association itself, and/or with the employees and/or with the board. </p>
<p>Get accurate, then complain, bash, whine, have a ball.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 18:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It apparent we do need seminars on how to stop whining (such as this post), and how to stop bashing volunteers.

Blaming the customer or members is not the answer, either.

And, I don&#039;t think a lot of the blame is aimed at the volunteers, but instead the institution as a whole.

A recent decision to mail badges to conference attendees before the conference, and to assign seating at the end-of-conference dinner were made due to popular request. Who is &quot;popular&quot;? Who made the request?

The currently proposed definition of technical writer: where was that discussed. We have forums and email and the STC likes sending out polls--though they often be vague. Where was that definition decided upon? Was it even written by a technical writer?

Etc.

No, I don&#039;t think the answer is to label the membership as good-for-nothing whiners. I think the answer lies somewhere else.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It apparent we do need seminars on how to stop whining (such as this post), and how to stop bashing volunteers.</p>
<p>Blaming the customer or members is not the answer, either.</p>
<p>And, I don&#8217;t think a lot of the blame is aimed at the volunteers, but instead the institution as a whole.</p>
<p>A recent decision to mail badges to conference attendees before the conference, and to assign seating at the end-of-conference dinner were made due to popular request. Who is &#8220;popular&#8221;? Who made the request?</p>
<p>The currently proposed definition of technical writer: where was that discussed. We have forums and email and the STC likes sending out polls&#8211;though they often be vague. Where was that definition decided upon? Was it even written by a technical writer?</p>
<p>Etc.</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t think the answer is to label the membership as good-for-nothing whiners. I think the answer lies somewhere else.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 18:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s last comment was not only brutal, but really inaccurate. 

There&#039;s no secrecy. Everything, including meeting minutes, is posted on the web site, at minimum. Members are encouraged to attend board meetings. They are not secret. There are some sessions that are barred from general attendance because they are voting on things like awards, and this tends to &#039;leak&#039; before the awards ceremony, so these are secret only until such time as the general announcement is made. In fact, it is fair to say that anything that isn&#039;t broad knowledge immediately becomes broad knowledge in appropriate timeliness.

As for bloated PR enterprise, there is only one marketing person. That&#039;s the whole department. There are a total of 8-10 employees. Where&#039;s the bloat? 

As for podcasts...granted some things take time. Members clamor for services, but most services depend upon volunteers, with only 10 employees to provide everything for a 10,000 member organization. Volunteered lately? If you want to start a wiki, and keep general interest in it up among 10,000 members, I&#039;m sure the board will support your efforts.

The focus on BOK is because its in the STC mission. The board asked members what they wanted, and overwhelmingly, they wanted this focus. With ten employees and too few volunteers, there has to be a focus. Wikis probably kind of fell down the list under financial responsibility, and employer awareness. I&#039;m just guessing, and apparently so are you. But the mission chart shows you where the STC focus has to be until things are properly in order (They&#039;ve been out of whack and trying to be righted for some time. When you consider each board has to get up to speed to carry on the initiatives, it is no wonder that takes time.).

It apparent we do need seminars on how to stop whining (such as this post), and how to stop bashing volunteers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s last comment was not only brutal, but really inaccurate. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no secrecy. Everything, including meeting minutes, is posted on the web site, at minimum. Members are encouraged to attend board meetings. They are not secret. There are some sessions that are barred from general attendance because they are voting on things like awards, and this tends to &#8216;leak&#8217; before the awards ceremony, so these are secret only until such time as the general announcement is made. In fact, it is fair to say that anything that isn&#8217;t broad knowledge immediately becomes broad knowledge in appropriate timeliness.</p>
<p>As for bloated PR enterprise, there is only one marketing person. That&#8217;s the whole department. There are a total of 8-10 employees. Where&#8217;s the bloat? </p>
<p>As for podcasts&#8230;granted some things take time. Members clamor for services, but most services depend upon volunteers, with only 10 employees to provide everything for a 10,000 member organization. Volunteered lately? If you want to start a wiki, and keep general interest in it up among 10,000 members, I&#8217;m sure the board will support your efforts.</p>
<p>The focus on BOK is because its in the STC mission. The board asked members what they wanted, and overwhelmingly, they wanted this focus. With ten employees and too few volunteers, there has to be a focus. Wikis probably kind of fell down the list under financial responsibility, and employer awareness. I&#8217;m just guessing, and apparently so are you. But the mission chart shows you where the STC focus has to be until things are properly in order (They&#8217;ve been out of whack and trying to be righted for some time. When you consider each board has to get up to speed to carry on the initiatives, it is no wonder that takes time.).</p>
<p>It apparent we do need seminars on how to stop whining (such as this post), and how to stop bashing volunteers.</p>
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