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		<title>By: how to learn a language</title>
		<link>http://www.idratherbewriting.com/2008/04/11/the-right-way-and-wrong-way-to-teach-people-wordpress-notes-from-a-wordcamp-utah-planning-meeting-at-applebees/comment-page-1/#comment-140877</link>
		<dc:creator>how to learn a language</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well written post however, I would recommend that you turn the No Follow off in your comment section.

Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well written post however, I would recommend that you turn the No Follow off in your comment section.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Louttyapasp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louttyapasp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reason why is great to be a gay ;)
You think the idea of punting a small dog is funny. Its joke :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reason why is great to be a gay <img src='http://www.idratherbewriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
You think the idea of punting a small dog is funny. Its joke <img src='http://www.idratherbewriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wordcamp Utah &#8212; Sept 27 in Provo, Utah &#124; I'd Rather Be Writing - Tom Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordcamp Utah &#8212; Sept 27 in Provo, Utah &#124; I'd Rather Be Writing - Tom Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] looooong time ago I attended a planning meeting for this Wordcamp. Joseph Scott is the main organizer for the event. Thom Allen will be speaking on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.idratherbewriting.com/2008/04/11/the-right-way-and-wrong-way-to-teach-people-wordpress-notes-from-a-wordcamp-utah-planning-meeting-at-applebees/comment-page-1/#comment-129776</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the US. I&#039;d love to see the guide when it is done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the US. I&#8217;d love to see the guide when it is done.</p>
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		<title>By: Dahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The KISS principle hold so much truth, yet sometimes i find it so hard to adhere.
I ask myself, when I write an installation guide for a server product, if i skip a step in order for simplicity is that good?
When i write specs, how much information do i leave out. If i leave information out, and the customers buy the wrong thing, is that good? aalas.
I definitely agree though about training them on basics. i&#039;ve done the opposite and thrown everything in a session only to see some very annoyed trainees in the first 5 minutes. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The KISS principle hold so much truth, yet sometimes i find it so hard to adhere.<br />
I ask myself, when I write an installation guide for a server product, if i skip a step in order for simplicity is that good?<br />
When i write specs, how much information do i leave out. If i leave information out, and the customers buy the wrong thing, is that good? aalas.<br />
I definitely agree though about training them on basics. i&#8217;ve done the opposite and thrown everything in a session only to see some very annoyed trainees in the first 5 minutes. <img src='http://www.idratherbewriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig, I&#039;m working on a quick reference guide to WordPress. When I&#039;ve finished it, I&#039;ll send it to you and you can tell me if it meets the requirements of simplicity.

I can&#039;t remember where you&#039;re located. U.S.? Canada?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig, I&#8217;m working on a quick reference guide to WordPress. When I&#8217;ve finished it, I&#8217;ll send it to you and you can tell me if it meets the requirements of simplicity.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember where you&#8217;re located. U.S.? Canada?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ben. I agree. Since we&#039;re in the same chapter, maybe this wouldn&#039;t be so difficult to organize and coordinate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben. I agree. Since we&#8217;re in the same chapter, maybe this wouldn&#8217;t be so difficult to organize and coordinate.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post. Lots of agreement here. I think STC meetings should be more laid back. An official presentation every so often is good, but it puts undue stress on the organizers when they think they have to come up with some big event for each month&#039;s meeting. I&#039;d say let&#039;s sit down, talk about what we do at work, and discuss roadblocks and best practices. Not to mention just talk about non-tech-comm things.

I&#039;m in the boat of a tech writer with some geek knowledge, so I was definitely intimidated by WordPress instructions having to do with MySQL. I&#039;d love to see WordPress provide the newbie&#039;s guide to blogging.

Of course, one of the first things I did was radically alter the theme I picked, so talk about CSS wouldn&#039;t scare me off. But a presenter getting into PHP stuff probably would.

&lt;em&gt;Ben&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.gryphonmountain.net/archives/runoff/the-english-language-keep-the-old-town-charm-alive&#039;&gt;The English Language: Keep the Old Town Charm Alive&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post. Lots of agreement here. I think STC meetings should be more laid back. An official presentation every so often is good, but it puts undue stress on the organizers when they think they have to come up with some big event for each month&#8217;s meeting. I&#8217;d say let&#8217;s sit down, talk about what we do at work, and discuss roadblocks and best practices. Not to mention just talk about non-tech-comm things.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in the boat of a tech writer with some geek knowledge, so I was definitely intimidated by WordPress instructions having to do with MySQL. I&#8217;d love to see WordPress provide the newbie&#8217;s guide to blogging.</p>
<p>Of course, one of the first things I did was radically alter the theme I picked, so talk about CSS wouldn&#8217;t scare me off. But a presenter getting into PHP stuff probably would.</p>
<p><em>Ben&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.gryphonmountain.net/archives/runoff/the-english-language-keep-the-old-town-charm-alive'>The English Language: Keep the Old Town Charm Alive</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

I completely agree with you. And I rarely agree with anyeone to this degree about anything.

Keep things very simple, as if you were talking to a very young child. Don&#039;t mention what you need not.

I LOVE Quick Reference Guides. Beginners can use them to get started. Experienced users can use them to jog their memories.

When I first went to WordPress and read about MySQL and PHP and all that crap, I ran away and haven&#039;t returned. I did my time as a programmer. I don&#039;t want to have to do it again.

At Blogspot, they offer nice big graphics lableled 1, 2, 3. Easy Peasy. Click on these buttons, follow the bouncing ball, and you become a novice blogger in about two minutes. That is what I wanted. That&#039;s what most people want, I should think. I was up and running in less time than it took to brew a pot of coffee. Nice.

Eventually, I will probably migrate to WordPress, but not right now. I&#039;m actually busy writing with pen to paper. GRIN. After Blogspot fails to server my needs. That has not happened yet.

STC desperately needs a new meeting model. They have neeed one since about 1970. That&#039;s one reason I don&#039;t go to metings any more. I can&#039;t stand them. Too dinosaurian. Too mired in the past. I&#039;d rather go to the dentist. I&#039;m and and I&#039;m out.

Keep writing. I love your posts. Am looking forward to graduating from novice blogger to quasi-geek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, yes, and yes.</p>
<p>I completely agree with you. And I rarely agree with anyeone to this degree about anything.</p>
<p>Keep things very simple, as if you were talking to a very young child. Don&#8217;t mention what you need not.</p>
<p>I LOVE Quick Reference Guides. Beginners can use them to get started. Experienced users can use them to jog their memories.</p>
<p>When I first went to WordPress and read about MySQL and PHP and all that crap, I ran away and haven&#8217;t returned. I did my time as a programmer. I don&#8217;t want to have to do it again.</p>
<p>At Blogspot, they offer nice big graphics lableled 1, 2, 3. Easy Peasy. Click on these buttons, follow the bouncing ball, and you become a novice blogger in about two minutes. That is what I wanted. That&#8217;s what most people want, I should think. I was up and running in less time than it took to brew a pot of coffee. Nice.</p>
<p>Eventually, I will probably migrate to WordPress, but not right now. I&#8217;m actually busy writing with pen to paper. GRIN. After Blogspot fails to server my needs. That has not happened yet.</p>
<p>STC desperately needs a new meeting model. They have neeed one since about 1970. That&#8217;s one reason I don&#8217;t go to metings any more. I can&#8217;t stand them. Too dinosaurian. Too mired in the past. I&#8217;d rather go to the dentist. I&#8217;m and and I&#8217;m out.</p>
<p>Keep writing. I love your posts. Am looking forward to graduating from novice blogger to quasi-geek.</p>
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		<title>By: Poewar.com -- The Writer's Resource Center by John hewitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poewar.com -- The Writer's Resource Center by John hewitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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